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Consists & Car Types // The Makeup of Melbourne Suburban Trains!
Melbourne's electric suburban trains run in standard 'sets' of carriages, with different types of cars playing different roles in the function of the train. This video takes a look at the situation today in 2024, as well as a bit of history to show how we got here.
Want to help support the channel, get early access to new content and exclusive behind the scenes videos? Join me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/Taitset
All photographs and video footage are by Martin Bennet (me), with the exception of the short clip of double-ended Tait motor 472M, which is by Alexander Jamieson, check out his channel here: www.youtube.com/@melbournesparks3828 The animated graphic trains are by myself, with the exception of the Comeng and Hitachi sets, which are by Alexander Jamieson. The credit music in this video is by my brother Cian, who also provides the equipment and expertise to record my voiceovers. Check out his music here: hyperfollow.com/cianbennetmusic
Chapters:
00:00 - ..how many cars?
01:04 - Car types, a brief history
02:44 - Standard Blocks & Units
04:04 - Some other sets
05:13 - Along comes the Hitachi
05:36 - East end, West end
06:42 - Comeng arrives, MTM is cool now
07:53 - Equipment distribution
09:04 - Six car sets today
10:35 - Three car sets today
11:50 - The move towards fixed trains
12:13 - A Sydney distraction
13:43 - HCMT classification chaos
15:28 - ..do I need to know any of this?
17:46 - The end part of the video
#trains #melbourne #railway #transport
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Melbourne's Newest Station // Pakenham Goes East!
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A look at the brand new East Pakenham station, opened in June 2024 as a small extension of Melbourne's Pakenham suburban railway line. Want to help support the channel, get early access to new content and exclusive behind the scenes videos? Join me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/Taitset All photographs, video and diagrams used in this video are by Martin Bennet (me). My voiceover in this video was...
Sydney's Manly Ferries // The Freshwater Class!
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Sydney's Freshwater Class ferries have been running the route between Circular Quay and Manly since the early 1980s, and have become an enduring icon of the harbour city - this video looks at their story, and recent attempts to remove them from service forever. Want to help support the channel, get early access to new content and exclusive behind the scenes videos? Join me on Patreon: www.patre...
My Grandma's 1949 Railway Map!
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A look at how the Victorian railway network has changed over the last 75 years, via my grandma's 1949 railway map! Want to help support the channel, get early access to new content and exclusive behind the scenes videos? Join me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/Taitset All photographs and video footage used in this video are by Martin Bennet (me). My voiceover in this video was recorded with the ass...
A video where I talk about the Upfield line for 38 minutes!
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The Upfield line is a 19km electrified broad gauge suburban railway line running north from Melbourne's CBD. This video takes a look at the whole line, including some history and features you can see along the line today. Want to help support the channel, get early access to new content and exclusive behind the scenes videos? Join me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/Taitset All photographs and video...
Sydney's Scenic Sidings: Lavender Bay!
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The railway sidings at Lavender Bay - officially known as North Sydney Car Sidings - are an interesting historical relic from the days before the Harbour Bridge, and are still in use today for stabling suburban trains. Want to help support the channel, get early access to new content and exclusive behind the scenes videos? Join me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/Taitset My voiceover in this video w...
World's Busiest Tram Corridor // Swanston St & St Kilda Rd!
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Melbourne's Swanston Street & St Kilda Rd corridor carries 8 tram routes on a double track line through the city, making it the busiest tram line in the world! Want to help support the channel, get early access to new content and exclusive behind the scenes videos? Join me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/Taitset The music at the end of this video was created by my brother Cian, who also provides th...
Miniature Trains In Melbourne // The Diamond Valley Railway!
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Miniature Trains In Melbourne // The Diamond Valley Railway!
Train Driver's View: Diamond Valley Railway!
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Train Driver's View: Diamond Valley Railway!
Melbourne Metro Tunnel // How will it change the network?
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Melbourne Metro Tunnel // How will it change the network?
Evie & Friends // Melbourne's Infrastructure Evaluation Trains!
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Evie & Friends // Melbourne's Infrastructure Evaluation Trains!
The 1960 Broadmeadows Runaway Train!
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The 1960 Broadmeadows Runaway Train!
The V/line Fleet // Regional Passenger Rail In Victoria!
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The V/line Fleet // Regional Passenger Rail In Victoria!
Rainy Walk Down Elizabeth Street!
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Rainy Walk Down Elizabeth Street!
Flying Through The Suburbs: Express Trains In Melbourne!
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Flying Through The Suburbs: Express Trains In Melbourne!
First Look At Melbourne's New G Class Tram!
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First Look At Melbourne's New G Class Tram!
Bus Replacements in Melbourne // Always An Adventure!
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Bus Replacements in Melbourne // Always An Adventure!
Taitset's 20,000 Q&A + A long walk around the city!
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Taitset's 20,000 Q&A A long walk around the city!
Division of Melbourne Suburban Trains // What Does It Mean For Passengers?
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Division of Melbourne Suburban Trains // What Does It Mean For Passengers?
Public Transport Fares In Victoria // The Free Tram Zone
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Public Transport Fares In Victoria // The Free Tram Zone
Melbourne's Runaway Train // The 2003 Broadmeadows Runaway!
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Melbourne's Runaway Train // The 2003 Broadmeadows Runaway!
Melbourne's Beachside Tramway Suburb: St Kilda!
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Melbourne's Beachside Tramway Suburb: St Kilda!
A Walk Through St Kilda // Acland St to St Kilda Junction!
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A Walk Through St Kilda // Acland St to St Kilda Junction!
Victorian Railway Signalling // What does it all mean?
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Victorian Railway Signalling // What does it all mean?
A Frosty Winter Bike Ride - The Diamond Creek Trail!
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A Frosty Winter Bike Ride - The Diamond Creek Trail!
The Flinders Street Clocks // Melbourne's Malfunctioning Meeting Place!
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The Flinders Street Clocks // Melbourne's Malfunctioning Meeting Place!
Cruising around Melbourne in style - Tait suburban tour!
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Cruising around Melbourne in style - Tait suburban tour!
Train Driver's View // Hurstbridge Line // Rainy Night
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Train Driver's View // Hurstbridge Line // Rainy Night
A video where I talk about the Hurstbridge line for 40 minutes!
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A video where I talk about the Hurstbridge line for 40 minutes!
Melbourne In 2013 // Photographing Transport From Above!
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Melbourne In 2013 // Photographing Transport From Above!

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @paupaupaupaupau
    @paupaupaupaupau 2 години тому

    Very useful information. Thank you. I do not like the whine in the comeng you mentioned.

  • @fauzirahman3285
    @fauzirahman3285 4 години тому

    I was in Brisbane recently and I noticed the wheelchair boardings are different for the NGRs and the other rollingstock due to the use of both guards and station staff.

  • @winstonfacey5938
    @winstonfacey5938 4 години тому

    Hi Martin, love the content. Given its mention in this video, I'd be really interested in knowing more about Melbourne's double decker train experience. I remember riding them back in the day and thinking they were great, but they vanished without a trace.

    • @Taitset
      @Taitset 4 години тому

      It was just one single train, I covered it a little bit in this video: ua-cam.com/video/qSyG8mPzWqc/v-deo.html

  • @gman83090
    @gman83090 6 годин тому

    My great grandfather would be incredibly proud of how far railway technology has come. After serving in World War 2 he returned to Melbourne and worked in the electrical substations for the railways. He would be absolutely amazed by the advancements that have been made, and the impact his work has had on the industry. His contributions to the railway system have paved the way for the modern and efficient transportation we enjoy today.

  • @kyletopfer7818
    @kyletopfer7818 11 годин тому

    Martin - love your work, I can't afford to support you on Patreon right now, I would if I could and hopefully in the future! Can I make a video suggestion though: a look at what it would take to speed up trips for Traralgon/Gippsland line trains once they get inside the MMT network, short of doing what Sydney did with extended quad track for express services. Are there particular sections where simple overtaking tracks or a third track would make a big difference and cut travel times? In fact, a look at how to speed up the trips for VLine trains in general without breaking the bank would be great. Thanks and look forward to all your future videos!

    • @Taitset
      @Taitset 4 години тому

      Thankyou very much! That is absolutely a video I'd like to make, in fact it's on my list already. I'll need to trawl through the timetables, but I suspect what you're saying is basically correct - a couple of kilometres of quad track in the middle might be all you need. The third track at Westall almost does it, and I have seen an overtake happen there, it's just not quite long enough do it without delaying the suburban train slightly.

    • @kyletopfer7818
      @kyletopfer7818 4 години тому

      @@Taitset perhaps as an Idea you could derive some Sort of classification or benchmarking, where: Option 1 of an extension to the Westall third track cuts say 5-10min off an Express Trip cheaply Option 2 adds another overtaking Spot and improves line speeds so cuts Express trips say 15-20min Option 3 of full Triple or quad track and bringing Line speeds up to 130kmh where possible cuts over 20min from Express trips.

  • @tangerinealarm
    @tangerinealarm 11 годин тому

    The vibration and noise of the air compressors used to drive me mad, I wish I knew this info when I was going to uni and catching the train.

  • @transponderings
    @transponderings 13 годин тому

    Apology accepted! 😉

  • @F40M07
    @F40M07 14 годин тому

    2:39 so a cab car?

    • @Taitset
      @Taitset 4 години тому

      They're typically called cab cars on a locomotive hauled train, and driving trailers on a multiple unit - but yep, same thing.

  • @whophd
    @whophd 14 годин тому

    RIP the 4D. And RIP the dream to have unified fleets between Sydney and Melbourne. How good would that have been? Sydney's train layouts are really advanced by world standards, with seating capacity of two Airbus A380 planes each. Imagine if the T-set Tangara was followed by the M-set Millenium and the A and B-set Waratah series 1 and 2. The Waratah in particular has a kicker of an engine in it, and really takes off from the station. And SO incredibly smooth on the suspension. Plus when the train is empty, it's so quiet you can hear a quiet voice from the opposite end of the saloon. Plus there's none of that gimmicky "tucking in" around the curved doors. Some of the Melbourne sets do that, and some of them don't. What gives? Surely the kinetic envelope and loading gauge weren't different when the 1990s or 2000s ordered new trains?

  • @ThompsonSteamtrain
    @ThompsonSteamtrain 15 годин тому

    😳 the blue Trains have asbestos in them. what?

  • @awesomeduder
    @awesomeduder 15 годин тому

    the downhill hairpin after Allendale Rd... iconic

  • @RYNT1157
    @RYNT1157 16 годин тому

    Check rails used on curves where they are not elevated like in stations and yards to hold wheels in place to prevent derailment and check rails in the centre at bridges so if a train derails it will be kept in a straight line so it wont collide with the sides of the bridge and go over. These can be also in yards as well.

  • @ChrisMeeking
    @ChrisMeeking 16 годин тому

    Great video! Very clearly explained 👍

  • @lordgmlp
    @lordgmlp 16 годин тому

    Thanks for letting me know what drove me insane with its buzzing noise on the Comeng trains lol. I always pick the M car at the very end of the train because its doors open right in front of the staircase exiting my home station.

  • @Nick-kz6dg
    @Nick-kz6dg 17 годин тому

    Using the N sets to test new country routes on the SG network would've been a great idea, save on paying for expensive new stock until the demand is proven.

  • @humpy75
    @humpy75 17 годин тому

    That was certainly a very informative and interesting look at the once was railways. It's a huge shame so much of it has gone. Considering the cost of maintaining roads and the lack of funding in other transport areas, a lot of the railways that exists, wouldn't take much to get up to passenger services. Imagine the tourist numbers, if catching a train to somewhere in Victoria, being the same price as existing VLine services.

  • @msinc
    @msinc 17 годин тому

    Anyone know what the loud bang-pop kinda noise is that the Comeng make once they hit their desired speed?

  • @CityGunzals
    @CityGunzals 17 годин тому

    Great Video, but just a very slight nerdy thing that I noticed as an Alamein Line Commuter. At 10:56, you explained that the Shuttle arrives at Platform 1, but this is mostly incorrect. It usually arrives at Platform 2 so there is no conflict between the Shuttle Train and the City Bound Train from Belgrave/Lilydale that uses Platform 1 (they're usually only scheduled 2 or so minutes apart). It's usually only if there isn't a Flinders Street Train scheduled directly after that Platform 1 is used for the Alamein Shuttle, and even when this is the case, the Shuttle usually just turns around in Platform 1 and heads straight back. I know this doesn't matter at all, but I just had to lol.

    • @Taitset
      @Taitset 17 годин тому

      That's very interesting, never seen it done like that when I've been there! Running into 2 is still a conflict with the other train as it has to cross its path to get there. But certainly makes sense to use 2 where possible.

    • @CityGunzals
      @CityGunzals 17 годин тому

      @@Taitset There might be a conflict while both trains are arriving, yes. But once the Alamein Train arrives on Platform 2, the city bound train can just jump past it on Platform 1 without having to wait for it to shunt out. Sometimes both trains leave the station simultaneously, running parallel until the Shuttle Train stops in the siding.

  • @YukeWeiss
    @YukeWeiss 18 годин тому

    Damn I have never noticed the differences on the bogie bottoms before in such detail.

  • @Calmrecordings
    @Calmrecordings 18 годин тому

    Breathed a sigh of relief at 10:44 when you mentioned 3 car sets on Alamein. I think you pitch your audience just fine in terms of nerdiness!

  • @DangerAngelous
    @DangerAngelous 19 годин тому

    I'lll keep in mind to sit in the 5th car if I want to have a nap on the train, away from motor noise and the horn!

  • @pingpongtrainsmelbourne
    @pingpongtrainsmelbourne 19 годин тому

    Like this comment and video if you spotted the pigeon saying 726 is his second favourite M car at 11:29

  • @kineticdeath
    @kineticdeath 19 годин тому

    I tried to ride an EMU once, but it ran away into the bush

  • @aprilmuller7780
    @aprilmuller7780 19 годин тому

    another banger, thanks Taitset. i've been travelling on Melbourne Metropolitan trains my whole life and your videos answer everything I have ever wondered about why our trains are like that. I used to travel on the Alamein line for school and often ended up on 3 car sets if I traveled off of peak. I missed the train a few times because I was waiting and the wrong end of the platform at Riversdale and didn't make it to the other end in time! I also experienced the same platform changeover at Camberwell a lot, it's definitely convenient

  • @jaxsonneil1308
    @jaxsonneil1308 19 годин тому

    Taitset can you please do me a huge favour and make a video about the murrabit to Kerang line and the koondrook to Kerang line in one video please 🙏🏽

  • @jaxsonneil1308
    @jaxsonneil1308 20 годин тому

    Fun fact the Kerang, Maldon, and jewell station are all the same Style

  • @soviet_3110
    @soviet_3110 20 годин тому

    7:38 thats sad.

  • @neilplatten5818
    @neilplatten5818 20 годин тому

    Hi Martin, great video as always. You might want to look into the new TMF being built at Kananook to see if it can fit a 6 car set. My understanding is the X'trap 2.0 is destined for the Frankston line so I wouldn't be surprised if it does.

    • @Taitset
      @Taitset 19 годин тому

      Thankyou! I would imagine all new maintenance facilities will be able to fit at least six cars from now on, they can already do it at Craigieburn which I expect will be the main X2polis depot.

  • @wombatwombat4609
    @wombatwombat4609 21 годину тому

    Thanks! I used to ride the red rattlers back in the day (Sandringham line). Now I'm sitting in Dandenong, watching this and the HCMTs pass while I wait for a sensible train (purple and noisy)

  • @robertdefazio2885
    @robertdefazio2885 21 годину тому

    Love these videos especially when I see the old Red Rattalers ❤

  • @nathancurnow6425
    @nathancurnow6425 21 годину тому

    Watched this in Xtrapolis 80M (is that how you say it?)

  • @ElijahWinn-bn4sq
    @ElijahWinn-bn4sq 22 години тому

    I don't care that it's nerdy. My friend literally labelled you as a train nerd.

  • @michaelformaini7053
    @michaelformaini7053 22 години тому

    Another well crafted video, Martin. The various characteristics of Melbourne's trains are well explained for the novice enthusiast and general enquirer and I really found it difficult to detect any significant error. Nice to see the coverage of 3 car Comeng sets on Jordanville bank (just down the road from me). Loved the clip of the model double ended Tait on Alex's garden railway. Keep up the good work.🙂🙂🙂

  • @thex-wing
    @thex-wing 23 години тому

    Yes most definitely an interesting video

  • @user-fed-yum
    @user-fed-yum 23 години тому

    I had no idea of any this, found it fascinating, you do such great work. Thank you.

  • @TheMatsushitaMan
    @TheMatsushitaMan День тому

    5:58 I hope the passengers are okay after those inversions

  • @GL-xz3xk
    @GL-xz3xk День тому

    Greetings from 508M where I am gently having my fillings vibrated out by the air compressor.

  • @DouglasDC10.30
    @DouglasDC10.30 День тому

    Here in Adelaide the only train with a trailer carriage is the 4000 Class. The 3000 Class are railcars (like the Sprinter) and I believe the 3100 Class is a 2 carriage DMU.

  • @FrancescoBattaglini
    @FrancescoBattaglini День тому

    No word on xtrapolis 2.0 yet?

  • @ianmontgomery7534
    @ianmontgomery7534 День тому

    All the Metro trains on my line are 7 carriages. Great presentation.

  • @RichyTransport
    @RichyTransport День тому

    oh no I wonder what will happen if I glue that onto a side on a myki and the guard on a vline train inspects it

  • @POWER6367
    @POWER6367 День тому

    I suppose the next job is to tackle VLine. :)

  • @benallan7348
    @benallan7348 День тому

    What are the noticeable differences between cars that might lead to having a favourite or second favourite?

  • @TreFR14
    @TreFR14 День тому

    now do the tram fleet

  • @wj11jam78
    @wj11jam78 День тому

    I would say it may be short sighted to make all our trains 6 carriage sets. In the future, we may want to extend to, say, 9 cars. With 3 car sets, we can create these. It just seems like a sacrifice of flexibility based on the fact that we dont need it right now.

  • @Colt45hatchback
    @Colt45hatchback День тому

    I listen to your videos while driving a truck, so i dont get to comment or like each one, but ill place a comment here while waiting to be unloaded. I like your videos, calm sounding and informative and i very much like the humerous reasons you dont have a picture of things, such as not having a camera for a million years after such happened or that there was an administrative error seeing you not born yet at the time 😂 excellent work 👌 also. Unsure if youve done one i havent seen, but hitachi content? When i was a teen i wrote a letter to connex asking for my specific services i needed for my weekend job to be populated by hitachi trains, which astonishingly they abliged 😂

  • @vanmaan72
    @vanmaan72 День тому

    Great video, it's a pity sparks don't go to Warragul any more, I use to live in Bunyip and catch the early morning train to Pakenham . Sometimes I would catch the train to Warragul and the driver would open it right up , Hitachi's sounded awesome flat out between Drouin and Warragul and it's something we'll never experience again.

  • @IanHughes
    @IanHughes День тому

    Love your videos Martin - thank you. One question re the config of internal seating. In Mel the seats are facing to/from the direction of travel (except for the wheelchair areas). In Asia many countries have bench seating on each side of the carriage leaving a large open space in the middle. Is this a capacity thing or something else? Just curious. Cheers.

    • @Taitset
      @Taitset День тому

      Longitudinal seating is common on high capacity high frequency metro systems, because it allows more space for people to stand. Despite the branding, Melbourne's network is a main line suburban system, not a proper 'metro.'

  • @Wdeane1957
    @Wdeane1957 День тому

    Great video! The explanation of noises in carriages was interesting, but didn't cover the unique sound of the HCMTs. When first moving off they have a distinctive traction motor sound, then after a few seconds it dramatically changes to a higher pitch- almost like a car changing down gears for more acceleration. I'm curious what this actually is as I'm sure electric trains don't have gears.

  • @Mackarony5
    @Mackarony5 День тому

    The sound of the Xtraps and Comengs are so iconic!